tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6655521.post112978466208615943..comments2024-02-23T17:09:12.957-05:00Comments on bethquick.com: Tipple-Vosburgh Lectures - Reflections, part 1Beth Quickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14171030571583683180noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6655521.post-1129864578734838392005-10-20T22:16:00.000-05:002005-10-20T22:16:00.000-05:00anonymous - Dr. Burrus didn't mention Clinton, but...anonymous - Dr. Burrus didn't mention Clinton, but Stroupe did, in a related way, actually. He argued that because Clinton wouldn't acknowledge wrongdoing for sexual misconduct, that liberals were forced to argue that sexuality is a private matter. I almost posted it, but I found I was (and am) having a hard time articulating the point he was making via blog!<BR/><BR/>Rev. Willy - Dr. Burrus was not the one who made that statement - that was Rev. Stroupe. Also, I didn't say that Stroupe argued that conservatives or liberals in particular talked about individual salvation, but people in general. I find this to be true in my own congregation for sure. Lots of my parishioners very much tie "salvation" primarily to an idea of reward and punishment. I totally agree that the goal of the Christian life is to become Christlike, but at least in my neck of the woods, I have met many liberals and conservatives and in-betweeners who think of salvation as "getting into heaven." <BR/><BR/>Re: shame. Abortion would be an action that people relate to shame rather than a state of being, which was more Dr. Burrus' focus in her lecture. Of course, we all have our lists of acts that we find shameful. I understand that many passionately find abortion to be immoral. I disagree, but I do understand where others are coming from. For me, I find it shameful that in a world of abundance, more attention is sometimes given to the unborn than to the children that already live without enough and have more taken from them. I would rather see the needs of children addressed as a priority. <BR/>But, I guess abortion is a topic for an entirely different post than this one.Beth Quickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14171030571583683180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6655521.post-1129840515974530112005-10-20T15:35:00.000-05:002005-10-20T15:35:00.000-05:00How said the goal of the Christian life is to get ...How said the goal of the Christian life is to get to heaven? The goal of the Christian life is to become like Christ. As a conservative I know of no other conservatives who believe that salvation is individual with a goal of getting to heaven. Dr. Burrus is making a huge generalization.<BR/>As to shame, where is the shame of 1 million babies being aborted annually?Revwillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04056129430564452912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6655521.post-1129840416121708112005-10-20T15:33:00.000-05:002005-10-20T15:33:00.000-05:00Was Clinton impervious to shame?Was Clinton impervious to shame?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com